“In fact, everyone wants to interview House. And they get me.” So says the actor who created perhaps the most controversial character in the history of cinema and the brightest hero of our time. Meeting Hugh Laurie, a man and a man who does not see himself as a hero.
I wait for him in the lobby of the Chateau Mormon in Los Angeles and order a cappuccino. On the couch next door, two lovely young women coo carelessly – a typical product of Californian glamor and the cult of total “fine!” I squint at them, and it’s only through this disregard for good tone that I notice how they both fall silent, focusing on something obviously significant behind my shoulder. In one of them I recognize the actress Katie Holmes … And she identified my future interlocutor. Hugh Laurie is approaching us, and it was this that silenced the wife of Tom Cruise himself …
And Lori, at the word “success”, used about him, frowns in disgust. He is against thoughtless word usage. He claims: “I don’t have any success, I just got lucky.” And again: “The luckier I am, the more frightening I am. Success is deserved, and I won the lottery, although I didn’t even buy a ticket.”
But he doesn’t look like a frightened person at all. Although in fairness it must be said that he does not look like a minion of fortune, and a successful pro. Lori does not even look like just an actor – he does not have that imprint that a profession that requires self-demonstration leaves. Hugh Laurie is like a man who is 51 years old, who raised three children, worked all his life and thought a lot. Who has a habit of thinking, although he hides it: like most men of our time, he would like to appear as a man of action, not thought.
Laurie has clear and piercing blue eyes, and from him emanates the deepest calmness – this usually comes from big, tall, monumental people. And Laurie – a strange thing, I did not notice this on “Doctor House” – seems to me almost a giant: his height is in no way less than 190 cm, and he seems even taller due to his clearly asthenic physique … He is exquisitely polite, I would say – courtly : before each of the countless cigarettes lit during our conversation, he asks my permission to smoke. Another oddity: the smoke from his cigarettes does not annoy me. As well as intonations, and the timbre of the voice, and pauses, and manners … Hugh Laurie seemed to be created in order to be accepted. And there is nothing wrong with the fact that he has not yet learned to accept himself.
In different genres
Hugh Laurie was never satisfied with acting alone. For eight years he wrote hilarious sketches for A Little Bit of Fry and Laurie, then he released a spy detective with a touch of parody The Gun Dealer (Phantom Press, 2008), which was read half the world, and now he plays the guitar and keyboards sparklingly and sings in a rock band Band from TV. The group was organized by Greg Granberg from the TV series “Heroes” with the aim of noble exploitation of the glory of colleagues – without exception, all proceeds from performances go to charitable purposes. The group has already produced several hits, one of which is the American folk song Good Night Irene performed by Laurie. Her plans include an album, performances are scheduled two years in advance … So it is unlikely that we will soon wait for Laurie’s second book – the novel “Paper Soldier”, which was supposed to be released three years ago, but the writer is still working on it.
Psychologies: Your life changed dramatically when you were 45. To leave your native country, live away from your family – and deal with such matters as undeniable success and worldwide fame …
Hugh Laurie: Hugh Laurie: Listen, there is something absurdist about this fame of mine, that’s why I don’t trust it … Unfounded, unmotivated – I’ve always been wary of this. You know, I lived in this hotel for almost half a year when the casting was going on.
Suspicions?
“HOUSE AS A SERIES AND A PERSON IS TOO UNUSUAL. HE CANNOT BE A POP STAR. A STAL. I LIKE SHAKED BY THIS FACT.”
H. L.: You know, I belong to the type of people for whom the glass is always half empty. True, I don’t particularly share this worldview – I don’t like whining myself and try to fill my glass somehow, but the better things go, the more suspicious the course of events seems to me. My motto: if everything is good, it’s only a matter of time before it gets worse. “The Unbearable Lightness of Being” is a wonderful title, a brilliant wording and absolutely about me. The lightness of being is something unbearable for me. I am always tormented by the question: is what is happening worthy of deep feelings, or should we treat everything resolutely easier? Or, on the contrary, for the completeness of the feeling of being, one must experience everything seriously? With regard to reality, I have too many open questions, and the trend is that their number does not decrease. We British, you know, have a certain sentimentality, sensitivity. It is this sensitivity that has made many of us cynical. Self-defense, protection from our own feelings, from painful effects on our thin skin… I balance on emptiness – depression, trying to maintain sensitivity and not fall into cynicism. And at the same time, I am aware that, in fact, my depression is far-fetched: I do not do anything that could act overwhelmingly. My life is easy – have you noticed that I’m not a miner? Yes, I’m not even an actor – I never studied this profession and for a long time I was engaged in it at the “cabbage” level. Even ours with Steve (Stephen Fry is a famous British actor and prose writer, a friend of Laurie. – Approx. ed.) The super-successful long-term show of Fry and Laurie on the BBC was something of a continuation of our not so much theatrical, but theatrical activities in Cambridge. Maybe my depression is related to this – I’m not ready for the side effects of the profession. Well, sort of famous. A state alien to me.
Are you really prone to depression?
H. L.: Yes, I’m the depressive type. It started before the university and continues successfully despite the so-called career, fatherhood, favorable family, friendships and filming circumstances. For some reason, I feel unhappy … Although on a rational level, I know that I have no reason for this. But this state is part of me. I can’t complain about fate. I have no right. And it’s…terrible! Antidepressants help quite well, and I don’t think they change the personality – we put on a sweater when it’s cold, so it’s logical to take a pill when … it’s completely cold and homeless.
Have you tried to look for the causes of your depression?
H. L.: Yes, I found it, I think. I, apparently, do not have enough and always did not have enough struggle. Goals, passions of life. I stumbled, but I never had real failures. I once cheated on my wife, which became public knowledge, but publicized adultery, you will agree, is a very philistine substitute for a genuine failure in life. Life didn’t test me, that’s the point. Once I heard on the radio an interview with a famous British writer and politician, but by nature a soldier and fighter. He then said that he regrets only one thing – that he did not manage to die in the war. I was struck by this thought – it spoke a sense of the general, existential meaninglessness of existence. He lacked this “to die for” – how to enjoy the fruits of the victory for which others died? What is our present freedom worth? How is my freedom expressed, the freedom of the people of my generation? In freedom to get ravioli at three in the morning?
What, besides pills, helps you get out of such states?
H. L.: Boxing helps. Children. And House. I recently started boxing. Almost never with a pear. With a partner. It hurts, but you become a clot, a lump of strength that does not feel pain. I box every morning. For real – when I can afford to get a black eye or a dissected eyebrow. More often – in training mode. Due to the filming of “House” in real boxing, you have to take breaks. But House also helps. He is not affected by sociality, he is not chained to it, he is able to soar above all these canons of good behavior, political correctness, superficial tact. He is the denial of social gravity. I would like that too. But I just ride a motorcycle. This is also a flight. Flight surrogate, of course. But it seems. I have children. I love them, they are the main thing in my life. So do not ask me this dead-end, but traditional question “What do you have in common with House?”. Something, perhaps, would be related if I had no one to love. But I have someone. And this, by the way, looks like happiness. But who said that the meaning of our existence is to achieve happiness? I doubt.
“I ALWAYS HAVE NEVER ENOUGH THE FIGHT. GOALS, PASSIONS OF LIFE. I STOPPED, BUT I STILL DID NOT HAVE A REAL FAILURE.”
But isn’t this kind of doubt related to your hero?
H. L.: I like it completely different. In “Star Trek” (American television series. – Approx. ed.) There is such an episode. Captain Kirk looks out into outer space through a hatch and says, “Somewhere out there right now, someone is saying the three most beautiful words in any language.” You think he means “I love you”. But then the captain clarifies: “Help me, please.” By the three most beautiful words, he meant a request for help. And he is right – it contains absolute beauty, because behind it is a natural and noble contact of human beings. That’s what I like about House – there are requests for help everywhere, they come from all the characters, and from House, maybe to a greater extent.
Isn’t that your version of happiness?
H. L.: Maybe. But it is also important to overcome, the happiness of testing. For my 40th birthday, my wife gave me a parachute jump. That is, I went to training, and then I had to jump. But on day X, when we took to the air, it turned out that the wind was too strong and it was impossible for fools like us, amateurs, to jump. We returned to earth. An interesting detail: the women from our group were upset, and all the men – and I was no exception – breathed a sigh of relief. But one way or another, we all ended up there to test ourselves, to overcome. To know for myself if I can really jump into nowhere when at the height this instructor guy opens the door and says: “Come on!” It turns out that I never could: then the jump was canceled, then it was postponed, and then it was not at all up to it. And it turns out, I’m afraid of falling. Perhaps out of vanity. Or maybe because of the lack of vital energy. But all this combined makes me a vain pessimist.
There is something very British in the idea of overcoming as the meaning of existence – aggressive, colonialist. In addition, you played Bertie Wooster and other English aristocrats. So to what extent are you an Englishman, with all this national kit: irony, snobbery, carefully hidden “golden heart”, a passion for conquering new spaces, a desire to win, assertiveness and good manners?
H. L.: That is, to what extent I tend to be English? You know, I kind of like British football fans. As you know, the most malicious of all. Because they refute this myth of yours about an Englishman, a colonialist in a pith helmet. I don’t believe in national character in the modern world. I only believe in accent. In order to become a XNUMX% American House – with all his experience of historical and cultural disappointments, he still lives in an era of political correctness and post-classism – I had to deceive … language.
But you got a truly British upbringing: Presbyterian ascetic values in the family, then a school – the prestigious Eton, then Cambridge …
H. L.: But I think something else is important. I grew up in a family of a doctor and an athlete. My father was an incredibly gentle, incredibly well-mannered man, a doctor, exceptionally dedicated to his patients, a true athlete – he won the gold medal in sculling at the Olympic Games in London in 48th. And I wanted to be like him and also rowed, quite seriously. A friend of my youth, Emma Thompson, recently said: “Listen, I remember you then and I can’t believe my eyes – you were huge.” Yes, rowing is a strength sport. I was huge. This is partly why they took me to Cambridge – the sports uniform was impressive. But I wanted to be like my father and at the same time denied him – and his tact, and his honesty. I was a bad teenager, a kind of nasty teenager … But we are all doomed to realize ourselves as only a worsened version of our fathers … And this is how it ended: pretending to be a doctor House, I earn ten times more than he would earn if he were alive. Journalists ask if I’m sorry that my father died before House. No, it’s not a pity – perhaps I would be ashamed of this pretense. But I’m sorry that my father is no longer alive. I never came to terms with his death, I miss him – and this delicacy, and purity, and devotion. Shortly before his death, I went to the United States to shoot in Stuart Little, I think. I knew that he felt bad, but I decided not to go to him and not say goodbye in detail. And I did it quite deliberately: I did not want to … let him go, I did not want to give him permission to leave. He had to “hang” this case – to meet with me. And I didn’t really say goodbye. Now I regret it. But it is possible that he would have done the same if the situation had repeated itself.
“WHO SAID THAT THE PURPOSE OF OUR EXISTENCE IS TO ACHIEVE HAPPINESS? PERSONALLY I DOUBT IT.”
In general, do you think it’s worth leaving unfinished business? Does life make sense in open endings?
H. L.: Life itself leaves the finals open. For me, a clear example is my mother. She was a woman suffering from mood swings, with oddities – for example, in my opinion, she was the first in Europe to really implement “green” ideas: she collected waste paper from neighbors and handed it over … She despised the idea that one must live for the sake of happiness, that it is necessary to sure to achieve. She hated the very word comfort. She was hostile to sentiment, to manifestations of tenderness, she simply hated tears. As a reaction to our children’s tears, she could say: “Do not breed dampness!” We had a strange relationship: it seemed to me that she expects too much from me, sees in me something that I can never match. And all I did was break the image of my ideal self: I lied at school, I refused to seriously learn to play the piano. He became a self-taught actor, and not a doctor, like a father, as she wanted … Our relationship was not cloudless, and it seemed to me that, on the whole, I disappointed her. But after her death, my brother told me that I, it turns out, was a mother’s favorite, that she was proud of my stage experiences … But she is no longer there, I have no one to say what I want now. The final is still open.
Didn’t moving to the US make you less of a pessimist? After all, it is still generally accepted that America is a country of optimistic life-builders.
H. L.: Listen, when I close the door behind me in England, I enter my fortress. In a solid stone receptacle of vital foundations. And when I slam the door in a house in Los Angeles, the walls tremble! Here everything is flimsy, everything is temporary, no one thinks about permanence. They are building here, but without going in cycles, so that it is convenient now. In general, I like this American principle of life – fast & easy (easy and fast. – Approx. ed.). There is nothing to declare to the world about yourself as something permanent!
But how, having a tendency to depression, did you play comedies for so many years and write comedy scripts and sketches yourself, that is, make people laugh?
H. L.: Why, I’m just a depressive type, not a misanthrope. I like people. And they know about it – no one will say a bad word about me. That’s why I say bad things about myself.
Private bussiness
- 1959 In Oxford (Great Britain) in the family of Reynold and Patricia Laurie, a doctor and a housewife, the youngest of their four children, son Hugh, was born.
- 1978 Enters the Department of Anthropology and Archeology, Selwyn College, Cambridge University; joins the Cambridge Footlights university theater society, where he meets its activists, future actors Emma Thompson, Stephen Fry, Robbie Coltrane; experiencing a romantic passion Thompson.
- 1982 With Thompson, Fry and Coltrane creates the successful British TV comedy serial Alfresco; begins to actively cooperate with TV (now Lori has more than 40 roles in television shows and television series).
- 1985 First film role in Fred Schepisi’s Restless Heart.
- 1987 A Bit of Fry & Laurie, a comedy sketch show, begins airing on the BBC for a record 9 years; its literary basis is created primarily by the performers themselves; marries Jo Green, theater administrator.
- 1988 First child, Charles, followed by William (1991) and Rebecca (1993).
- 1990–1993 Television series Jeeves and Wooster based on the works of P. G. Wodehouse.
- 1996 Debut in Hollywood – in the film “101 Dalmatians” by Stephen Herek; publishes the novel The Gun Dealer.
- 1999 Stuart Little Roba Minkoffa
- 2004 Fox TV series “House Doctor”, which brings Laurie worldwide fame.
- 2005 Emmy nomination for his role in House M.D. (four more nominations and a Golden Globe in 2006 and 2007 followed);
- 2008 Street Kings by David Eyre.
- 2009 Voices the role of Dr. Cockroach in the animated film “Monsters vs. Aliens” by Rob Letterman and Conrad Vernon;
- 2010 As a director, he shoots the 16th episode of the 6th season of House M.D. “Quarantine” (Lockdown); in Russia in October on the channel “Domashny” the demonstration of the 6th season of the series “Doctor House” begins, and in the USA in September the 7th season started.